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March 17, 2010

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Very interesting. O'Reilly's slides are interesting, but it's only with your comments that I can understand all the nuances of what he claims. Thanks!

A wonderfully important post David, many thanks for sharing!

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You did a good job connecting the slides, but I believe the thesis is false.

It is all about the software. We already have more data than we know what to do with. The challenge has always been in making sense of it. The fact that Hadoop and Lucene exist is proof that Google's approach to free software is wrong. I can see how we are repeating the Microsoft mistake with Google, and yet Tim is focused only on easy import / export of scraps from Google. Is Google's map database open? How is that going?

Once you explain free software, the free maps is a very short conversation.

He also seems to think hardware is a limiting factor even though you can get a terabyte drive for $100 at Best Buy.

Keith, not sure I follow your points there. In particular, I don't think export of scraps of data from Google would solve the problem that Tim described -- indeed, the very fact that the Google Maps database is *not* open is an illustration of it. In fact, I'd say it's broader -- it's the integration of maps, contact, imagery and all the databases *together* that makes these new unique applications possible for Google and Google alone.

Hi David;

My point is that the free software movement will also guarantee "open data". Find me a piece of data about the Linux kernel that isn't "open". That is why focusing on open data is fighting the wrong battle.

And I don't agree that only Google can create data and put it on the Internet. I agree there is a lot of data to put up there, but I disagree that only Google can put it up there. There are many companies that have made maps before, for example. The whole point of "mashups" is to string stuff together. It doesn't need to be all Google doing this.

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Interesting post, I agree the future is definitely in open source, take a look at applications such as Ccleaner and Apache. All open source applications which leave behind commercial products in the same categories.

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