Comments on R and Linear AlgebraTypePad2013-08-28T18:45:33ZBlog Administratorhttps://blog.revolutionanalytics.com/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://blog.revolutionanalytics.com/2013/08/r-and-linear-algebra/comments/atom.xml/Robert Young commented on 'R and Linear Algebra'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a010534b1db25970b019aff16a020970b2013-08-30T13:19:27Z2013-08-30T16:28:39ZRobert Younghttp://DrCoddWasRight.blogspot.comFor books, have a look at Gentle's Matrix Algebra. I have his Computational Stats book, and it is well written...<p>For books, have a look at Gentle's Matrix Algebra. I have his Computational Stats book, and it is well written for a daunting subject. I expect he's done similar for LA. The Amazon reviews (not many, but it's not Miley Cyrus topic) are all very positive. According to the ToC, and the snippet of the Preface one can sample, he uses most of the stat packs, including R. </p>Roger commented on 'R and Linear Algebra'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a010534b1db25970b019aff166b8c970b2013-08-30T12:27:10Z2013-08-30T16:28:39ZRogerI can second what Will said. I also took the course and we didn't use numpy or any other package,...<p>I can second what Will said. I also took the course and we didn't use numpy or any other package, but had to code our own Matrix and Vector classes as a learning experience. Now that I am done with the class I would gladly choose to use numpy over my code since numpy is much more optimized and tested. I would be even more likely to use R since it has great support for LA applications. I have used R for a long time now, but the pandas package does look very interesting. Python seems like a really great language.</p>
<p>Prior to this course I look a machine learning course on coursera that used Octave (or Matlab). Before I used R I liked Matlab better than S-Plus, but after using R for many years and then going back to Octave, I was so happy that I choose to learn R!</p>Will commented on 'R and Linear Algebra'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a010534b1db25970b019aff16be8a970c2013-08-30T12:05:41Z2013-08-30T16:28:39ZWillhttp://willj.coI actually took the Coursera course and I think Python was a much better alternative to R in this case....<p>I actually took the Coursera course and I think Python was a much better alternative to R in this case.</p>
<p>1.) Most students came in with little to no programming experience.<br />
2.) R's learning curve is just too steep, whereas Python is human-readable (I love R, but python is more user-friendly).<br />
3.) No other packages / modules were used, we built a Matrix and Vector class and implemented all of the features of matrices with overloaded operators.</p>
<p>The purpose of the class was to teach linear algebra through building each basic step. Using a pre-built Matrix package would defeat the purpose and reduce the course to just learning terms rather than forcing yourself to understand the linear algebra well enough to be able to write it in code.</p>
<p>Explaining the algorithms of linear algebra through code was a lot more fun than just knowing how to run a certain module.</p>
<p>So, yes, R has a lot more going for it than Python for Linear Algebra. But knowing how to use a tool wasn't the purpose. You were supposed to really grok linear algebra. </p>Rdabbler commented on 'R and Linear Algebra'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a010534b1db25970b019aff167d7c970d2013-08-30T09:50:45Z2013-08-30T16:28:39ZRdabblerThere is a lot of momentum currently for usage of python in science. The combination of numpy, scipy, pandas modules...<p>There is a lot of momentum currently for usage of python in science. The combination of numpy, scipy, pandas modules are key to that. Companies like Enthought and Continuum Analytics are also helping with that. There are also several resources for a newbie. The tutorials and several talks from a python conference (pycon,scipy) are available as videos immediately after the conference (it will be really nice if materials were available like this from useR conferences). </p>
<p>The question still remains whether R can do lot of the same things and your post is timely in that regard. Thanks for posting.<br />
</p>Josh Hemann commented on 'R and Linear Algebra'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a010534b1db25970b019aff155054970c2013-08-30T03:55:27Z2013-08-30T05:14:09ZJosh HemannGreat synopsis on R for linear algebra. But your comments about Python make it clear that you don't know much...<p>Great synopsis on R for linear algebra. But your comments about Python make it clear that you don't know much about how the language has increasingly been used in scientific computing for more than 10 years. The motivation came in many ways from frustrations with MATLAB, so you'll see some naming conventions and entire packages (e.g. matplotlib) influenced by MATLAB's conventions. If you read up on that history a bit (e.g. Wikipedia) then the fact that many CS and Math departments teach Python won't be as shocking. </p>David Heffernan commented on 'R and Linear Algebra'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a010534b1db25970b019aff130093970d2013-08-29T19:16:16Z2013-08-29T21:06:29ZDavid HeffernanNothing that you said about R could not also be said about Python. Apart perhaps from point 2. Python is...<p>Nothing that you said about R could not also be said about Python. Apart perhaps from point 2.</p>
<p>Python is a much cleaner and purer environment than R though which is why I'd choose it over R for linalg.</p>Ben W commented on 'R and Linear Algebra'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a010534b1db25970b019aff12dc5d970d2013-08-29T18:52:49Z2013-08-29T18:52:49ZBen WI've almost completed the Coding the Matrix class and my understanding is that Python was used for instructional purposes, not...<p>I've almost completed the Coding the Matrix class and my understanding is that Python was used for instructional purposes, not because it is best tool for the job. Matrix and Vector classes are built from scratch. Having previously only studied theoretical linear algebra I've learned a lot getting my hands "dirty".</p>
<p>With respect to R and linear algebra - my main issue is having to use the "drop=FALSE" line to prevent column and row matrices becoming vectors, for example, when you're filtering a data set and only one row is output. This was discussed by Radford Neal ("Design Flaws in R #2 — Dropped Dimensions") on his blog some time ago:-<br />
http://radfordneal.wordpress.com/2008/08/20/design-flaws-in-r-2-%E2%80%94-dropped-dimensions/ </p>Drew Schmidt commented on 'R and Linear Algebra'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a010534b1db25970b019aff125958970c2013-08-29T18:10:00Z2013-08-29T21:06:30ZDrew Schmidthttp://r-pbd.org/Don't forget about pbdR for going big. We've run benchmarks on terabytes of data with up to 50,000 cores.<p>Don't forget about pbdR for going big. We've run benchmarks on terabytes of data with up to 50,000 cores.</p>Mildred Bonk commented on 'R and Linear Algebra'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a010534b1db25970b019aff1160c2970b2013-08-29T15:57:55Z2013-08-29T21:06:30ZMildred Bonkhalf the linear algebra books published by SIAM use linear algebra. Well, they wouldn't have much of a book without...<blockquote><i>half the linear algebra books published by SIAM use linear algebra.</i></blockquote> Well, they wouldn't have much of a book without it!
<p>The Python parts are probably using NumPy, Python's matrix/array extension, not just base Python.</p>